Subject: RE: Samba/Netatalk???
From: Sean Phelan (sphelan@chireader.com)
Date: Tue Oct 03 2000 - 16:16:20 EDT
At 12:28 PM 10/3/00 -0700, Mike Johnson wrote:
>Are you sure that it is not a permissions thing? On my setup the samba users
>and the netatalk users are lumped in the same group, and when a pc user
>creates a file, the samba "create mode" makes sure that the apple talkers
>can use it.
>
>If I change the ownership on a file, then I get the "Unknown error [-50]"
>rather than the vastly more correct and helpful "You don't have enough
>access permissions", or something similar.
>
>Tell me, are they opening the file directly from the server, or copying it
>locally first and then trying to open it? I'm assuming that neither works.
They open it directly from the server. I believed I tried to copy the file
but it told me the file was locked (I have tried so many things, it is a
little hard to keep track off).
>What happens if they try to just copy it first?
About 25% of the time, they are able to copy the file themselves and work
from that copy.
>What happens if you log in as a member of the admin group and try to open
>one of the quark files?
I havent tried this yet, but I will give it whirl.
>I would experiment with the permissions if you're not sure how the files are
>being created. Just do a "ls -all" on some mac files to see the owner and
>group. The "smbstatus" command will tell you how your pc users are logged
>in, and what group is being used as their primary. This "primary" group is
>important because you may have them set up as members of several groups, but
>samba wants just one primary group that will be used to create files. You
>can force a primary group with - correct my if I'm wrong - the ... group
>parameter? Not sure if that's right....
>
>Oh, and before we get too far.... Make a test network!!! At the very least,
>don't play with the power of unix on a weekday with users logged in!
How true. I did try this (for about a week in test area) but I guess I
didn't check enough.
>(Okay I'm sure you know that, but you'd be surprised how many people forget
>such basic sys admin things.)
>
>- mike Johnson
>
Thanks for the help.
Sean
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Sean Phelan [mailto:sphelan@chireader.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:40 AM
>To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu
>Subject: Samba/Netatalk???
>
>Okay, here is the situation. We are trying to replace an old novell server
>with a linux box running netatalk/samba. We are a newspaper that relies
>heavily on Quark 3.32 - 4.11 running on both Macs and PCs. Generally,
>editorial uses windows machines (95,98,NT) and Quark to create the
>content/listings. When finished, they tell the production people to make
>it look pretty using Quark on Macs (8.1 - 9.04).
>
>So, I set up a new dell (PIII 700 256RAM 3COM 905c) running Redhat 6.0 with
>the 2.2.16 kernel. I am using samba 2.0.7 and netatalk pre-asun2.1.4-37b
>with FLOCKS.
>
>Here are the problems that we are having:
>1. Macs cannot open any quark file that is created on a pc. They are told
>that the file is locked. They are able to open a copy of the file once I
>make a copy of it via the linux command line. NOTE: Sometimes when they
>try to open the file and it tells them it is locked, the file is somehow
>deleted. I thought is was something with samba so I looked into how they
>lock files. I have turned oplocks off.
>
>2. Lastly, macs 8.6 and above still are unable to keep a connection.
>They are constantly getting disconnected.
>
>Any direction is much appreciated. Unforunately if I cant get this to work
>ASAP, we might have to look elsewhere for solutions(windows 2000).
>
>Thanks in advance
>Sean Phelan
>Chicago Reader
>
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