Subject: RE: Disappearing files.....[long, new case/infos]
From: Michalowski Thierry (Thierry.Michalowski@edipresse.ch)
Date: Tue Dec 05 2000 - 06:34:49 EST
Could all of this be caused by OS9 and _not_ netatalk alone?
Let me explain:
We use Helios EtherShare at work on our main server, and it happened that
some of our users suddenly found an entire volume into their Trash.
However, these volumes are read-only by normal users: the files could not
disappear on the server because it happened to be impossible to empty the
Trash.
Only one Mac on the net believed it had trashed everything, any other Mac
normally saw all files in place (not in the Trash).
How odd, sometimes one or the other sees the files in _both_ places : right
in the volume _and_ in the Trash.
All of this is easily (hum!) solved by simply restarting the Finder on the
faulty Mac. After that, everyone sees the files at their correct location.
Sorry for the long description...Why all of this?
Simply to point out that even if netatalk is not there, the same thing may
happen with OS9.
Ok, not exactly since we never lost any file, but it may be because of
different permissions set on the U*X side.
I would be really happy to hear anything from anyone who could have
experienced anything like that.
As a side note, we used to have "AutoPurge" runnning on our Macs to work
around the "Temporary Items" non-existant purge in OS9's Finder. Since we
disabled this utility, we never met the problem again.
All of this could probably have something to do with persistent DIDs as far
as I can imagine, but I'm far from being able to explain everything alone.
Thierry Michalowski
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Kerrison [mailto:russellk@bearcage.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:06 AM
To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu
Subject: Re: Disappearing files.....
on 5/12/00 3:58 AM, Netatalk at atalk@abarrach.franken.de wrote:
> This might account for some of the file loss problems some people seem to
> experience. The window between 1 and 2 and between 2 and 3 could be
> arbitrarily large. The Mac seems to store DIDs for a long time, even
> when their resolving fails.
>
> Solution: never reuse DIDs
I wrote a week or two ago about a fault where a great slab of folders had
vanished from the server, and have since discovered that the odd OS9 users
periodically finds entire root folders in their Trash. Thankfully they
notice before they empty their trash!
I could imagine that this might be caused by an incorrectly recycled DID?
Russell.
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