Subject: RE: What about Mac OS X
From: Marc Miller (itlm019@mailbox.ucdavis.edu)
Date: Thu Aug 17 2000 - 18:59:42 EDT
What I heard was that MacOS X can't serve files to Macs prior to the G3
models. If it's not the G3, then I'm sure I heard that as long as there
are older Macs, there will be a need for netatalk.
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Mike Johnson wrote:
> It's not that I want, or care to, install anything Unix on X. I'm just
> wondering what the relevance of netatalk will be in the future networking
> environment.
>
> I mainly use Linux and netatalk as a file sharing solution between the Macs,
> IBMs, and SGIs in the office, but if Mac is going to be supporting NFS, the
> for netatalk is drastically reduced, since windows 2000 (hey, it's what the
> bosses want) has a nice Unix module. I was just wondering if anybody has
> examined the long-term need for netatalk. I'm concerned that people are
> spending their time developing a solution that will only be useful for
> another few months before the Macs learn to speak for themselves.
>
> It is merely a question - I'm not familiar with the abilities and drawbacks
> of Mac X, and that's why I asked if anybody knew more about it. I'm sure
> there will be a niche for netatalk to fill, but I wonder if it's future
> position will be different than were the development is taking it.
>
> Anyway, the work on netatalk has been very useable and reliable for me. I
> appreciate the program.
>
> - Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Per Arve [mailto:per.arve@telia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 2:51 PM
> To: Mike Johnson
> Subject: Re: What about Mac OS X
>
> May I wonder what features of netatalk you want to use on the OSX box. It
> will
> have appletalk built in just like any other mac OS. It is probably not wise
> to
> install a software like netatalk on to it as tthat may create conflicts.
> However, if you are lucky it will contain the features you need directly in
> the
> OS.
>
> Mike Johnson wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Because my company routinely buys all of the newest Mac software - even
> the
> > joke-of-an-OS 9 - we'll probably find and buy Mac OS X soon after it's
> > deployment.
> >
> > I have heard and read that this new version will be built on a BSD kernel,
> a
> > welcome but unnerving prospect. X supposedly will support NFS and a
> command
> > terminal, and will do away with the chooser all together.
> >
> > My 60 employee company runs Windows 98, NT, and 2000 as well as Mac 8.6
> and
> > 9 and SGI's IRIX (two servers for two offices and several workstations).
> Oh,
> > there's a Novell server in there, too (hopefully permanently replaced by
> the
> > infinitely more stable Linux soon). I spend the majority of each day just
> > trying to keep all of these operating systems fat and happy, dealing with
> > problems users create (i.e. "There was a flash of light and my appointment
> > disappeared!"), and the rest I spend on research to prepare me for future
> > changes I'll be expected to be an overnight expert on. I'm sure many of
> you
> > can sympathize....
> >
> > If X really does support the great pieces of Unix like they say it will,
> > people like me will make the change as soon as possible because, once I
> > train my users, it will be easier to maintain. Not to mention, Apple has a
> > horrible habit of discontinuing support for any hardware or software older
> > than their latest OS release.
> >
> > So I'll make the change with reservations. Reservations because most Mac
> > users != power users, and many still don't fully understand what Unix is,
> > even though we have several machines. Will I no longer need a solution
> like
> > netatalk? Or will I need a netatalk file server to bridge X and 9?
> >
> > My main question is: will netatalk still apply? I'd love to continue its
> > use. With the help of the people on this list, it's now running smoothly.
> > Like a dream. I'm guessing that if X supports Appleshare, then netatalk
> will
> > be the most comfortable, familiar solution for my users, rather than
> > mounting NFS style.
> >
> > Has anybody had a chance to play with the beta?
> >
> > - Mike Johnson
> > Systems Administrator
> > Lunar Design
> > www.lunar.com
>
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