RE: netatalk in production environments...Definitive


Subject: RE: netatalk in production environments...Definitive
From: Luke McNeilage (lmn@d2p.com.au)
Date: Wed May 31 2000 - 22:31:08 EDT


I'm sorry?????

My aliases that I save to my shared volumes, in any level of subdirectory
made either on or off the server, accessed from any user:

 .......ALL WORK FINE!!!!!!!!

It is apparent that you users are have a lot of problems with some of the
core functionality of why you share information. I believe from some of the
comments that I have read, that you need to get a grip on user rights and
file services.

Crucify me if you think I'm wrong, but mine works, but I can't explain it.
There needs to be a concerted effort with new documentation on all this if
we are ever going to pull it together. I run 50 servers, servicing over 500
users in mixed smb and netatalk environments.

Now we are just a startup so I am paddling like an army of ducks, but one of
the first things I intend to do in any future quite time, is re-write this
chaos.
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>From: Harry Zink/Netatalk List <netatalk@fizbin.com>
>To: <netatalk-admins@umich.edu>
>Subject: netatalk in production environments....(RFC)
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 4:41 PM
>

> A great many people have posted in the past how they are using netatalk
> servers in genuine production environments. This puzzles me, simply because,
> as much as I like netatalk, it still lacks one MAJOR feature which, in my
> opinion, renders it near unusable in a heavy production environment - alias
> support.
>
> Even under pre-37, alias' for sub-folders will break and not remain attached
> from session to session. Most user's I know heavily rely on alias' to
> utilize server volumes - hence, I do not find it possible to deploy netatalk
> servers in such environments, no matter how much I want to, because the
> server is nearly unusable with alias support.
>
> Apple's ASIP (of course) as well as Windows NT have no problems. Novell's
> Netware (which is genuine crap) and netatalk don't handle alias' reliably.
>
> My question, to those of you that DO use netatalk in production environments
> - how do you do it? How do you deal with the alias issue, and what
> work-arounds have you found for your users (no, telling them they can't use
> alias' is NOT an answer....)
>
> I'm really curious, as myself, and several IT friends of mine keep having
> these discussions, and regardless how much we really want to deploy
> netatalk, our hands are tied by the workflow of our users.
>
> I know the problem hs to do with persistent IDs, but why can Win NT handle
> it, and what's the issue with netatalk not being able to?
>
> Harry
>



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