Subject: Re: Long Filenames
From: Ron Chmara (ron@Opus1.COM)
Date: Thu Apr 06 2000 - 20:12:40 EDT
"Derek J. Balling" wrote:
> > > install), and I've tried DAVE (from thursby.com) to try and transfer them
> > > that way (except DAVE bones the long filenames by transferring them as
> > > 01PULP~3.MP3, using the 8.3 filename instead of working with the long
> > > filename to create something useful.
> > That I expect is sensible behavour. The 'long' name is to long, request
> >the 'short' name from the server instead. The munged short name would
> >have been created by Samba on the server.
> I would have it thought it would have been more sensible (well, to me, it
> IS more sensible *G*) to create an abbreviated name on the destination side
> using the longer name instead of the short-name.
> That is to say, "give me the filename that most looks like what I last saw,
> given the OS restrictions of the OS I'm trying to operate within."
<pedantic>
Why this is wrong: The short name is actually the file *name on most
95/98 disks*.
Joliet tries to override the filename, by using the comment field,
but, when given a choice between:
A) Joliet filename, stored on disk and in files....
OR
B) 8.3 filename, stored on disk and in files....
Your choices are often limited to what the actual _names_ are. That's why no
program is inventing a shortened version if the filename is *already* short.
So the files are never renamed, but the transferring OS has to read what it
_knows_ to be a filename. It doesn't invent anything, it just uses either
the file name, or the file comment. What you are talkng about is adding
a brand, spanking, new name, to replace the long comment. So then we're into
many "names", with an actual ISO/DOS filename, one OS/2 file comment,
(aka Joliet), and a _third_ name for MacOS 7-9, a fourth name for OS X
over AFP, and ext2 name (if it breaks any of the above...)
Hence, the lowest common denominator, the name most OS's can handle,
the 8.3.
Of course, many folks got so used to microsoft calling it a filename that
folks now seem to think it _is_ a filename. :-)
-Bop
</pedantic>
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