UKRAINE: ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEW
Background, Procedures, Expectations, and Preliminary Analysis

by

VICTOR SUSAK


I. METHODOLOGICAL ISSUES

THE CHOICE OF INTERVIEWEES FOR THE IN-DEPTH INTERVIEWS

The Ivan Franko L'viv State University Institute for Historical Research, in accordance with the distribution of project responsibilities, conducted five in-depth interviews with prominent people in society who represent major economic and political realities in contemporary Ukraine. While doing the field work the number of interviews was increased to ten in order to cover the widest array of social realities. One in-depth interview was conducted in Kyiv (the capital city of Ukraine), four in Donetsk (a mining center and a leading political and industrial center in the eastern region of Ukraine), and five in L'viv (an important political and industrial center in the western region of Ukraine). The in-depth interviews were collected based on results of the first phase of project; namely, four focus-group discussions (FGDs) in L'viv and Donetsk; two focus groups -- one all male, the other all female -- were done in each city with less prominent people with secondary education. Research activities were carried out in cooperation with the Donetsk Center of Political Science Studies.

With consideration of the fact that FGD participants discussed with equal eagerness political and economical realities, we decided that the in-depth interviews should be done with people who represent political and economic realities in L'viv and Donetsk and, accordingly, in the western and eastern regions of Ukraine. Two main groups of interviewees were identified for the two cities: prominent local political actors and business people. In selecting individuals we observed the principle of symmetric representation for both regions. Thus, in determining the interview candidates among the local politicians, we decided that we would interview a leader of the most popular political party in the city/region and a leader of the opposition party in this same city/region. In both cities we looked for business people who are among the leaders of "successful" enterprises that have a positive image among different population strata of the two cities; i.e., focus group participants in L'viv and Donetsk.

Analysis of the focus group participants' preferences for the in-depth interview candidates clearly distinguished two leaders: Vasyl' Kuibida, L'viv city mayor (six out of fifteen possible votes of participants in the L'viv FGDs) and Victor Pynzenyk, Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine for Economic Reform (five out of twenty-nine possible votes of the participants in all FGDs in L'viv and Donetsk). An additional reason for selecting Dr. Pynzenyk and Mr. Kuibida was the self-identification of one of the male participants in theFGDs in L'viv ("I want to be like the leaders, Victor Pynzenyk or Vasyl' Kuibida"). For the above reasons, we decided to include Dr. Pynzenyk in the list of the interviewees for the in-depth interviews as a prominent political figure at the national Ukrainian level for exploration of economic and political issues affecting the entire country. Mr. Kuibida entered the list of prominent local political actors in L'viv city. To ensure selection symmetry for the two cities, we planned to interview Donetsk mayor Vladimir Rybakov (two FGD votes in Donetsk). Mr. Rybakov turned out to be unapproachable. All of our attempts to contact him to arrange the interview failed, resulting in a certain distortion of the planned symmetry of our project. Both L'viv and Donetsk FGDs demonstrated certain differences between the all-female and all-male groups. In both cities men operated with general social political categories, while women tended to give more personalized answers and were "more down-to earth." This difference was particularly marked in Donetsk city. Though we perceive nothing strange about it, this brought us to the conclusion that gender problems are worth including in the in-depth interview program. For this reason we included women in the candidate profile for in-depth interviews. We considered women with business backgrounds, e.g., leaders of "successful" enterprises (one in Donetsk, one in L'viv). By coincidence the third woman-leader among the interviewed turned out to be Mrs. Valentyna Protsenko, leader of the Donetsk Region People's Rukh of Ukraine (Narodniy Rukh Ukrainy), who entered the group of local political actors.

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THE LIST OF RESPONDENTS INTERVIEWED ACCORDING TO THE IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW PRINCIPLE

1. VICTOR PYNZENYK -- Kyiv, the national prominent politician, Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine for Economic Reform; for exploration of economic and political issues affecting the entire country.

2. VASYL' KUIBIDA -- L'viv, prominent local political actor, L'viv city mayor. Due to Mr. Kuibida's specific background, a wide array of social realities [national, political, economic, local (i.e., city life), etc.] were discussed during the interview from the standpoint of a dominant national group representative.

3. OLEKSA HUDYMA -- L'viv, prominent local political actor, L'viv Region People's Rukh of Ukraine leader. Mr. Hudyma was chosen for the interview as the leader of the most authoritative political organization in L'viv city/western region of Ukraine. A wide array of social realities were discussed from the standpoint of the most popular political organization's leader and a representative of the dominant national group.

4. OLEG RYBAKOV -- Donetsk, prominent local political actor, leader of the Donetsk Oblast Socialist Party of Ukraine Organization. We selected Mr. Rybakov to interview as a leader of one of the most respected political organizations of Donetsk city/eastern region of Ukraine (second place after the Communist Party of Ukraine). A wide array of social realities were discussed from the standpoint of the leader of one of the most popular political organizations and a representative of the national group which is the dominant in this region.

In accordance with the selection principles for in-depth interview candidates among local political leaders, we first approached the leader of the Communist Party as the most popular party in Donetsk/Donbass. We received a flat refusal to give us an interview on the grounds that he does not give any interviews to USA-associated organizations and gives consent to be interviewed only to the representatives of "national" organizations. His last phrase, however, was "No, I never give any interviews to anyone!" When we approached Mr. Rybakov as a leader of the second most popular political organization, he readily agreed to give an interview. When the agreement on the use of the interview was signed, Mr. Rybakov said: "Oh, Michigan, Americans - they are fine fellows! Michigan is great!"

5. VALENTYNA PROTSENKO -- Donetsk, prominent local political actor, leader of the Donetsk Region People's Rukh of Ukraine. At the time of the interviews, the dominant social opinion considers Rukh in Donetsk/Donbass as the most controversial organization, in contrast to its dominant position in L'viv/western region of Ukraine. Socialists are in the opposite situation. They have a dominant position in Donetsk and an opposition position in L'viv. This situation brought us to the conclusion that it was worth meeting the leader of the local Rukh in Donetsk and the leader of the local socialist party in L'viv as representatives of controversial political organizations.

6. YEVGEN TALIPOV -- L'viv, prominent local political actor, leader of L'viv Socialist Party of Ukraine Organization and non-salaried advisor to the Head of the Supreme Council of Ukraine. As noted above, the interview with Mr. Talipov is symmetrical to the interview with Mrs. Protsenko in Donetsk. A wide array of social realities were discussed from the standpoint of the leader of one of the most popular political organizations and a representative of the national minority.

7. ANDRIJ TAVPASH - L'viv, businessman, General Director of "Sweetouch," a joint-stock confectionery. Mr. Tavpash, as the General Director of "Sweetouch," was selected as the interviewee for the following reasons:
a) The high quality products of this extremely "successful" company, made only from natural ingredients, are very popular among the L'viv population.
b) "Sweetouch" advertisements can frequently be found around L'viv, as well as on TV and radio programs and in periodicals and other advertising materials. The company is similar to Coca-Cola, a rather popular symbol of "successful Western civilization." A wide array of social realities were discussed from the standpoint of a successful businessman and a representative of the dominant national group.

8. OLGA SADOVS'KA -- L'viv, businesswoman, president of the private florist company, "O-la." We selected Olga Sadovs'ka from among L'viv business leaders for the following reasons:
a) The given candidate allows interpretation of various social realities, primarily gender, economic, and national ones, from the standpoint of a successful businessperson and a representative of the dominant national group and of women.
b) This company is one of the pioneers of "successful" private business in L'viv/western region of Ukraine. (Olga Sadovs'ka has been the president of the company from the very beginning.)
c) Flowers offered by "O-la" company and various events, organized or attended by this company, are very popular, as indicated by the FGD participants.

9. IRENA ISAKOVA -- Donetsk, businessman, president of the private tourist company "Tigris." Mrs. Isakova is a Donetsk counterpart to Mrs. Sadovs'ka in L'viv. A wide array of social realities were discussed from the standpoint of a woman as a "successful" businessperson.

10. YURIJ ZAYATS -- Donetsk, businessman, trade-union leader of the A.F. Zasyad'ka mine. Our choice was justified by the following:
a) One of the focus-group discussions nominated Mr. Zayats for the in-depth interview.
b) A.F. Zasyad'ka mine is an example of a "successful" lease enterprise in Donbass.
c) Apart from the possibility of discussing general political and social realities, this interview threw light on labor-related issues.

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INTERVIEW PROGRAM USED FOR INTERVIEWING PUBLIC LEADERS

To conduct interviews with prominent political/economic actors, we used the life history approach through which one reconstructs the life history of the narrator, step by step, from childhood to the present, with different details of his life experiences under different sociopolitical circumstances in different times. The planned length of the interview was one and one-half hours. The first half of the interview was devoted to the period of the narrator's life before the beginning of "Gorbachev's perestroika"; the second part focused on the narrator's life experiences during the recent ten years of sociopolitical transformations.

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GENERAL MOTTO OF THE INTERVIEW

"People in society and society in the people; people in history and history in the people."


GENERAL OBJECTIVES OF THE INTERVIEW

How did the recent political and economical changes in Ukrainian society, which is post-communist and post-nonindependent, influence people's lives, and how do they influence their lives now? How did the people influence the events and changes, and how do they influence them now? How do social identities influence the individuals' awareness of social realities connected with the former Soviet Union? How do specific manifestations of such social reality influence the formation of social identities in Ukrainian society? What is the interviewee's life experience, and what does he/she think about the social achievements and failures that have taken place in our society during the last ten years?

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INTERVIEW PROGRAM

INTRODUCTION

1. Giving the reasons for choosing this very person to interview.

2. Giving special emphasis to the objective of the interview which is to learn about specific periods in a prominent Ukrainian contemporary social leader's life and his/her accounts of social events, realities, and problems being realized as part of his/her life experience. During an interview we get to know briefly about the interviewee's family, his/her past professional, social and political activity, and in detail about his/her life experience during the past ten years with special emphasis on contemporary activity. The interview ends with several questions about the interviewee's world outlook.

A. FAMILY AND PERSONAL BACKGROUND (fifteen minutes)

Date and Place of Birth

Father: name, social background, profession, and main social and political orientation and activity. Influence on the interviewee's personality formation.

Mother: name, maiden name, social background, profession, and main social and political orientation and activity. Influence on the interviewee's personality formation.

Other people: who could influence the interviewee's personality formation.

Important moments: Dwell on the specific moments in your personal and your family life, which you think are particularly important to identify who you are now and why you have this specific perception of recent and contemporary social realities.

Marital status: Spouse and children.

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B. CHOICE OF PROFESSION, PROFESSIONAL, PUBLIC AND POLITICAL ACTIVITY BEFORE SOCIAL AND POLITICAL CHANGES IN THE LATE 1980's (fifteen minutes)

It is very important to know beforehand the main stages and dates of the interviewee's professional career and social and political activity. During the interview emotions and evaluations should be given the utmost priority. Some minor details of professional career may not be so important.

Professional activity:

Social and political activity (main stages of activity)


Other information important for this period of the interviewee's life

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C. THE INTERVIEWEE'S LIFE DURING THE LAST TEN YEARS, HIS/HER ROLE IN RECENT AND CONTEMPORARY EVENTS IN UKRAINIAN SOCIETY (thirty-five minutes)

Activities (professional, social, and political) in the transformation period:

During the last ten years, our society went through rapid economic and political changes which to a certain extent had or are having an impact on our life. During this interview, we will be interested in learning whether your life changed during this period.

Main stages in professional career from the late 1980's to the present

Main stages of social and political activity from the late 1980's to present

Questions concerning world outlook in the context of social transformations in the last ten years
* Did your perception of social and political changes and other events change during the period of transformation? If yes, then when, why, and under what circumstances?
* What specific social events were especially important for you? Why? What was your personal role in them?

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D. EVALUATION OF THE RECENT AND PRESENT EVENTS IN UKRAINIAN SOCIETY (fifteen minutes)

After an extremely interesting talk about your life experience at the end of the interview we would like to ask you several questions concerning your world outlook that we ask all our interviewees:

* What are the most important improvements in Ukrainian society in the last ten years?
* What are major aggravations in Ukrainian society in the last ten years? Why are we facing them?
* What force and what actions can help our society out of the crisis most effectively?

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E. THE INTERVIEWEE'S PREDICTION OF THE FUTURE OF UKRAINIAN SOCIETY (five minutes)

* What can your personal role be in solving the above mentioned problems in the immediate future?
* What is your prediction about the future of Ukrainian society?

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F. SELF-IDENTITY (five minutes)

* Could you summarize this interview by giving a brief answer to the following question: "Who do you think you are?"

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

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II. EXPECTATIONS AND SOME PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS

By the using data collected thanks via oral history interviews, we hope to a provide the following kinds of analysis:

A. Analysis and comparison of social trajectories of narrators as representatives of certain sociopolitical groups.

B. Narrators' evaluations of sociopolitical changes and comparison of these evaluations with answers of FGD participants.

C. Self-identities of narrators and comparison to FGDs.

D. Narrative analysis: How do narrators express such or such issues by the use of such or such language constructions?

Analysis and comparison of social trajectories of narrators is one of the most important questions addressed by use of the life history approach. Among important topics that can be examined by use of the collected interviews are: Which are narrators' backgrounds? Why did they choose such or such life paths under such or such circumstances? To which social stratum do they belong? What is common and what is different in their life stories?

For example, one evident common feature for every person who was interviewed as an "agent of change" is that practically all of them belong to the middle generation. With only one exception they were born after the Second World War, and they rose to social prominence during the last ten years. All of them have changed their social trajectories dramatically on the eve or just after the break-up of the Soviet Union. Even the First Secretary of the L'viv Socialist Party organization became a social leader in 1991. Disregarding their positive or negative evaluation of this period, they were in a sense both children and agents of those changes.

There is no wonder that the older generation is underrepresented among this sample. Still, it is rather striking that the younger generation (that is, under thirty-five years old) is underrepresented, too. By definition, it is this generation that has to be a main agent of change. From everyday experience we know many people in this age group who have succeeded as political leaders or entrepreneurs. A plausible explanation is that this younger generation started later and therefore found most of the prominent positions occupied. Therefore it was hard for them to compete with the middle generation. Or, because of the age difference, they were slow to articulate themselves as a special strata. Evidently, they will need more time to rise to prominence and to gain popularity and credibility in Ukrainian society.

Another hypothesis derives from observations concerning the moment when these leaders came to a conclusion that something had to be done with the old Soviet system. In the case of the leader of the L'viv regional Rukh, Oleksa Hudyma, it was the time when he had worked in Czechoslovakia at the end of the1970's. There he got information from ordinary Czechs and Slovaks about what had really happened during the Prague spring of 1968. The leader of the Donetsk regional Rukh, Valentyna Protsenko, received, in her own words, "her first political education" in Vilnius, Lithuania, where she happened to learn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Stalinist repression, and events in western Ukraine during and after the Second World War. The Director of "Sweetouch," Andrij Tavpash, confessed in his interview that the greatest impact on him had been his visits to the U.S., Germany, and Japan, while he was a L'viv city Communist Party Secretary in charge of light industry. There he observed how real enterprise looked and how it functions efficiently. In his words, these visits made a profound change in him and made him think about how to improve the situation. The former Vice Prime Minister for Economic Reform, Dr. Victor Pynzenyk, stated that his economic views were influenced by publications of famous Russian economists Otto Latsis, Yegor Gaidar, and Gavriil Popov. He was in Moscow preparing his dissertation, and while there read and heard many things that at the time were quite forbidden in L'viv or could lead to loss of a job if someone dared to express them. [N.B.: For more details see field work report that was presented at the Kyiv workshop in August 1997 (Part II. Social Trajectories: Introducing In-depth Interview Respondents).]

It is significant that not one of these persons referred to a specific Ukrainian experience. Their original source of inspiration came from outside of Ukraine. I believe that this is no coincidence. Because of the extreme isolation of Ukraine and extremely repressive regime during the last decades of Brezhnev's rule, there was no opportunity for the emergence of alternative ideas that could later serve as intellectual catalysts for change. On the other hand, the two leaders of the Socialist Party of Ukraine who we interviewed, Oleg Rybakov in Donetsk and Yevgen Talipov in L'viv, refer to the experience of the Soviet Union as a normal and positive one. Both had rather typical biographies of middle range Communist Party functionaries. They never looked for a positive experience outside of the former Soviet Union.

This is confirmed by some participants in both focus groups in Donetsk. Most of the interviewees considered the former Soviet Union to be the epitome of a society with party clerks who were responsible, kept their word, and cared about common people and with free and efficient medical care. If they refer to some outside experience, it is most often when they are trying to find arguments for official bilingualism in Ukraine. But, for example, they do not talk about the outside world as an example of an efficient economy.

In my opinion, this simply demonstrates how conservative Ukrainian society was and still is and how much it is resistant to real economic and political changes. By conservatism, I do not mean adherence to a traditional peasant-based style of life. This conservatism should be seen as a measure of the power of the old Soviet stereotypes. If an impetus for change had to be found, most likely it had to be found outside of Ukraine. In the case of L'viv, most participants who were "reform-minded" referred to Poland, Germany, and the U.S. as examples of efficient systems that has to be introduced in Ukraine.

According to the narrators' evaluations of sociopolitical changes and comparison of their evaluations with answers of FGD participants, let me offer the following comments.

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POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE SOCIAL REALITIES IDENTIFIED BY THE IN-DEPTH INTERVIEWEES

Kyiv: Prominent Politician

Dr. Victor Pynzenyk, Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine for Economic Reform

Improvements

* Ukraine's declaration of independence
* Adoption of the Constitution of Ukraine
* Financial stabilization, devaluation of the U.S. dollar on the internal market, monetary reform (introduction of hryvnia as a full-fledged national currency)

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* The state has put in place very difficult conditions, regulations, and procedures for economic activities in the private sector; the only justification for this is the corruption of authority structures. This mainly results in the extension of spheres of influence of the "shadow" economy. Operations of some private businesses are close to criminal.
* Monopolization of numerous sectors of economy (e.g., energy, supply, and sale in rural areas, etc.)
* Critical problems of our enterprises include their inability to sell their products and the absence of effective owners who would take responsibility for business outcomes.
* Unregulated norms and procedures regarding transition of property rights; absence of an institute of independent property form registrars
* Standards of property rights protection are not sufficiently developed.

Donetsk: Local Political Actor

Oleg Rybakov, Leader of the Donetsk Oblast Socialist Party of Ukraine Organization, Deputy Head of the Donetsk Oblast Council

Improvements

* Cooperation and friendship agreement was signed between Ukraine and Russia.
* Creation of Eurasian Socialist Congress with Socialist party of Ukraine playing a prominent role, which is a manifestation of the growing international standing of the "left" movement in Ukraine

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Collapse of the USSR, which led to the severance of integrated production connections, and liquidation of state control of the economy in the country, which had guaranteed against unemployment and lack of social protection for people
* Planned economy was ruined, which led to the complete ruination of industries and "outbreak" of the shadow economy.
* The universally accepted ideology of the democratic state does not yet exist.
* State bodies are excessively corrupt.
* Unreserved orientation towards the West, along with unfounded efforts towards isolation from Russia
* Unconstructive dictates of the International Monetary Fund in Ukrainian economic transformation matters
* "Right" and "Right-Centrists" are blamed for no reason for all evils of society.

Donetsk: Local Political Actor
Valentyna Protsenko, Leader of the Donetsk Region People's Rukh of Ukraine

Improvements

* Nowadays people have the feeling of freedom and self-respect.
* There is less and less open propaganda for a "return to the USSR" in Donbass.

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* The existing legislative foundation in Ukraine and executive power created opportunity for a small circle of people to "lawfully shift money from the state funds into their own pockets." The most basic result of this is stratification of society into very rich and very poor.
* The majority of modern business people are representatives of the former Communist Party nomenclature; all they care about is their personal enrichment and not the improvement of the living standard of the society.
* More than fifty percent of the Ukrainian economy is "in the shadow."
* President Kuchma does not have a "party base."
* Non-existence of a national elite of "good citizens of their state" in Donetsk, failure of people in Donetsk to understand the necessity and inevitability of political and social changes that are taking place in society
* National democratic movements are not unified; their main weakness is passivity on the issue of creation of a legal basis for business development.

Donetsk: Businessman
Yurij Zayats, Zasyad'ka Mine Trade Union Leader, Donetsk City

Improvements

* I got the feeling of personal freedom, independence in thinking, actions, and speech.

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Lack of social protection for people of pension age and the disabled

Donetsk: Businesswoman
Irena Isakova, General Director of "Tigris" Tourist Company, Donetsk City

Improvements

* "Your life is in your hands."
* Opportunities for creation and development of "one's private business"
* Opportunities for establishing business connections with foreign companies

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Absence of a good legislative basis for free development of private business; absence of a clear and balanced tax policy

L'viv: Local Political Actor
Vasyl' Kuibida, L'viv Mayor

Improvements

* People grew to realize that "their life is in their hands" and that the fundamental role of the state is not to care directly for the people, but to create favorable conditions for their self-realization.

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Old management methods, business structures, and methods are still in place.
* Non-existence of a well-based legislative foundation
* Too much authority is concentrated in the hands of the central power officials, which is a major constraint to effective and timely solution of the day-to-day problems of a complicated, urban area -- L'viv city, as an historic and cultural center of universal significance and an important industrial center in the western region of Ukraine.
* Many people still have the old thinking that "the state is responsible for everything" and are reluctant to take on the weight of responsibility "to say to oneself: I am responsible for myself, my life, and my family's life."

L'viv: Local Political Actor
Oleksa Hudyma, Leader of the L'viv Regional People's Rukh of Ukraine

Improvements

* Ukraine's declaration of independence
* Adoption of the Constitution of Ukraine
* Democratic liberties (e.g., open borders, opportunities to feel free)

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Ukrainian authorities are not interested in the political development of Ukraine (i.e., development of a sound political structure based on the functioning of well-organized political parties).
* The Parliament, government, and President are not liable before anyone for their actions.
* Lack of cooperation between the government and Parliament
* Economic crisis
* Lack of unity of the right-center block as a main guarantor of decisive political and economic reforms

L'viv: Local Political Actor

Yevgen Talipov, First Secretary of the L'viv Socialist Party of Ukraine and non-salaried advisor to the Chair of the Supreme Council of Ukraine

Improvements

* Opportunity to express one's thoughts freely
* Liberalization of the political system
* Adoption of the Constitution of Ukraine

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* "Gorbachev's perestroika" only ruined and created nothing.
* Overall poverty of the Ukrainian population with the exception of a very small fraction
* The growing Mafia influence in the society
* Governmental structures at all levels do not give an account of their work.
* Undeveloped legal and judiciary systems
* Salary arrears
* Unemployment.
* Crisis in education, health care, and social protection
* Increase in alcohol and drug abuse and prostitution
* Economic and moral crisis in the Ukrainian military
* Insufficient modern equipment for private or cooperative farming

L'viv: Businessman
Andrij Tavpash, General Director of the Joint-stock Confectionery, "Sweetouch"

Improvements

* Liberation of people (e.g., freedom of speech, religious, political freedom, etc.); revival of customs and traditions of the Ukrainian nation
* Ukraine managed to avoid armed conflicts, civil war, and bloodshed.

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* There is no political force or statesman in Ukraine who could consolidate the society.
* Incompetence of Parliament and government; majority of their members do not strive to develop and strengthen the Ukrainian state; officials in the authority structures are overly corrupt.
* Politically structured society has not been formed; political parties are too few in numbers to influence events; their leaders pursue only narrow party interests and do not think of ways to bring the society together and overcome the crisis.
* Industry and agriculture of Ukraine are paralyzed.
* There is no middle class in Ukraine, which is the basis of any state; private business people and their associations are too few and too week.
* The society continues to be polarized into various income categories.
* Salary and pension arrears
* The prestige of science is declining.
* Spiritual values are neglected.

L'viv: Businesswoman
Olga Sadovs'ka, President of the Private Florist Company, "O-la"

Improvements

* Ukrainian people regained their political consciousness.
* People cease to be "consumers" and realize that their life is in their hands.

Aggravations and Negative Social Realities

* Anti-Ukrainian government and Parliament policy; "nostalgia" for the "golden Soviet times"
* Pension amount does not provide even for the minimum living standard.
* People's faith in the future has been ruined; people feel self-conscious.

In making some preliminary observations on the improvements and aggravations that our interviewees have experienced, first of all, of course, we can note that the list of aggravations is much longer and covers a broader range of issues than the list of improvements. Most of the interviewees as well as the participants in the FGDs found it hard to remember something nice that happened in their life during the last ten years. It required special effort and skill to help them think in that way. Among the aggravations, the most important were "crises of the economy in Ukraine"; it was listed by fourteen out of thirty-eight respondents (ten interviewees and twenty FGD participants). The second and the third places are occupied by "social insecurity of Ukrainian citizens"(eleven respondents) and "deterioration of personal and family situation" (eight respondents), respectively. The next position is held by two interrelated issues; that is, "corruption of the authority structures" and the "government's lack of the competence and, as a result, a lack of trust in the power." The remaining aggravations were voiced by one to three respondents; therefore, they can be treated as rather personal issues.

Among improvements, the unmatched leader was a "liberalization of social life in Ukraine, a possibility for an individual self-expression" (twenty-four respondents). There was no difference on this issue along age, gender, regional, or political divisions. The second most frequently mentioned improvement was "Ukraine's independence" (eighteen persons). It should, however, be noted that all of these were respondents from L'viv. In Donetsk, no one answered in this way. The third position is occupied by "an improvement of personal and family situation" (seven respondents). The next improvement listed by the participants was "the adoption of the constitution in Ukraine." It should also be stressed that both issues gained equal popularity in both L'viv and Donetsk. The other issues were mentioned only by one person each.

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SELF-IDENTITIES OF NARRATORS OF IN-DEPTH INTERVIEWS

As noted earlier, every interview concluded with the question: "Who do you think you are?" Here are the narrators' answers to this question:

Oleksa Hudyma, Leader of People's Rukh of Ukraine, Lviv Region

Irena Isakova, General Director of "Tigris" Travel Agency, Donetsk


Vasyl' Kuibida, L'viv City Mayor

Valentyna Protsenko, Leader of People's Rukh of Ukraine, Donetsk Region


Dr. Victor Pynzenyk, Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine for Economic

Oleg Rybakov, Leader of the Donetsk Oblast Socialist Party of Ukraine and First Vice-Chairman of the Donetsk Oblast Council


Olga Sadovs'ka, President of "O-la" Private Florist Company

Yevgen Talipov, Leader of the Socialist Party of Ukraine, L'viv City, and non-salaried advisor to the Chair of the Supreme Council of Ukraine


Andrij Tavpash, General Director of the L'viv Joint-stock Confectionery, "Sweetouch"

Yurij Zayats, Trade Union Leader of A.F. Zasyad'ka Coal Mine, Donetsk

By summarizing the self-identities of these oral history narrators, we can develop the following picture:

Oleksa Hudyma -- a professional and political leader with a very high level of responsibilities before people who trust him

Irena Isakova -- a "role player," a "Leo," a leader by nature

Vasyl' Kuibida -- a philosopher, humanist, economist, citizen of L'viv

Valentyna Protsenko -- a Ukrainian "state builder"

Victor Pynzenyk -- an idealist in politics, a reformer

Oleg Rybakov -- a "Leo," a leader

Olga Sadovs'ka -- "an average woman"

Yevgen Talipov -- a leftist political leader

Andrij Tavpash -- a person who is happy and in harmony with his land, who has strong respect for his neighbors

Yurij Zayats -- an average person who lives in interesting times

We can observe that among self-identities of oral history respondents there is balance between individual and group identities. Among individual identities there is domination by their understanding that they are leaders; among group identities, there isn't any domination by any group.

At the conclusion of this presentation, I would also like to refer to the possibility of having interesting results if one were to provide a narrative analysis of the interviews collected; i.e., how narrators express such or such issues by the use of such or such language constructions. Let me use one example. Yevgen Talipov, the socialist leader from L'viv, very often used Ukrainian words in his Russian-language interview; these Ukrainian words are mostly related to political issues such as "state," "political parties," "regional issues," etc. It looks like this Russian-rooted person has real involvement in the specifics of Ukrainian politics. Another example is the domination in his speech of explanations about the importance of socialism for social equality, and why we should struggle for the victory of its formation. He also refers to positive examples of capitalism, for example, some histories from the Rockefeller family business. etc. Does this reflect some personal doubts? Is this the reality of a transitional generation? Or is this a case of an intellectual searching for new models for an equitable society?


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