Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:48:39 -0500 From: Steve Santner To: Joyce Peterson , "birders@umich.edu" Subject: Re: RFI:Hulbert Bog Joyce Peterson wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have heard that Hulbert bog up in the U.P. is a good place to find > boreal chickadees and gray jays. Is this true and does anyone have > directions on where the bog is? Joyce This is a good spot to find both Gray Jay and Boreal Chickadee. In one visit you are not guaranteed to get either, much less both but I have seen Gray Jay there most of the times I've been there (about 4-5 times). I've not had much luck with the Boreal Chickadee myself but I know others who have found it there. I can't give you absolutely specific directions for getting there since my good maps are at home but it is pretty easy to find. If you have the Delorme Atlas look on rt 28 in Chippewa Co to the west of Eckerman. You will see the village of Hulbert to the north of rt 28. The bog is to the south of rt 28 on a small (1-2 mile) loop off of rt 28. The bog is the western half of the loop. Steve Santner From: bert@torchlake.com (McDonald, Bert) To: "Bruce M. Bowman" Subject: Re: Hulbert Bog Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:13:04 -0500 hi bruce steve santner has given her all the info that i could have supplied. i was only there a couple of times last year, and found it off the delorme atlas (along with a little luck .... i.e. ...."that looks boggy ... do you think that could be it?"). we did see gray jays there (after going all the way to newberry to see the ones that were posted by those cabins last year), but no boreal chickadees. think you really have to get off the road and stomp thru the woods to see them. it is a really nice bog tho. i'm not sure how "great" it is for birding in general, but does seem to be a place where people go and see the g. jays and b. chickadees. it's very dense and thick. talk to you later, bert To: bbowman@umich.edu Copies to: jpetersn@umich.edu, birders@umich.edu Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:53:06 -0500 Subject: Re: RFI:Hulbert Bog From: andyspencer@juno.com (Andy Spencer) To find the general area of the swamp: go west from M123 at Eckerman Corner on M28. Just past Hulbert Lake at Hulbert Corners (see map--not visible from M28) at approx 6 miles, turn left on Basnau Road. This road goes due south for 1 mile and then turns due west and proceeds for another 2+ miles to rejoin M28. Never on my half dozen trips have I heard or seen either bird. In fact I've never been sure where the good spots are. (Notes on my Delorme Map page 106, state that the good area is about midway on the East-West portion??) After turning west the road becomes generally uninhabited and is gravel most of the way. There are a couple of places to turn off and hike around a bit. You are really out in the boonies. Maybe someone can provide more specific directions to the "good area". Andy Spencer Bloomfield, Michigan (Oakland County) andyspencer@juno.com Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:19:19 -0500 From: Steve Santner To: Andy Spencer , "birders@umich.edu" Subject: Re: RFI:Hulbert Bog Andy: The area at the eastern end, ie on the southward leg of the loop has houses and is in a deciduous (mostly) woodland. Several of these houses have feeders which are good to check. The Boreal Chickadee and Gray Jay are not in this section. They are in the westward section when you get into the bog. There is a deer feeding station which is usually stocked. This is what attracts the Gray Jay, which I've seen at the station and along the road moving in the direction of the station. The Boreal Chickadee is always there (I'm told) but, like you, I've never found it in this area. Steve Santner From: "Keith Saylor" To: "Bruce M. Bowman" Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:53:00 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Hulbert Bog Send reply to: KSaylor@Northbirding.com Priority: normal Bruce, Here is Kevin Thomas' responses concerning Hulbert Bog. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: brambling@juno.com To: KSaylor@Northbirding.com Subject: Re: Hulbert Bog Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:33:02 EST Keith, I can tell you were Hulbert is and how to get there I just don't know the actual names of the roads. To reach Hulbert go west on M28 about 6 or 7 miles past the intersection of M123. There will be a sign for the town of Hulbert that will tell you to turn north. Instead of turning north toward Hulbert you turn south. This road goes to the south about a mile than makes a right hand turn to the west. This road eventually goes back to M28. The bog area is along the east -west part of this road and starts about 1/4 mile beyond the corner. To bird this area just basically stop anywhere and listen along this stretch all the way to M28. In the winter they feed deer in a couple of places. These places also are good spots for birds. Most of the regular 'Boreal' species are here. I usually see Gray Jays and Boreal Chickadees every time I go there. I have also had Red Crossbills, White-winged Crossbills and Evening Grosbeaks several times. Pileated Woodpeckers are often found in the big Deciduous woods along the north-south part of the road. I haven't spent much time in summer birding this area so I don't know what other breeders may be in there. I usually stop here when I am up on a winter trip and I want to see Boreal Chickadees and Gray Jays. If you have a gazetteer map book the area I described is pretty obvious. It is on page 105. I am sorry I can't help you with the road names but if you follow the directions above you can't miss it. If you would like more info and a more complete species list let me know. Kevin brambling@juno.com Haslett MI 48840 517-339-1248 From: brambling@juno.com To: KSaylor@Northbirding.com Subject: Re: Hulbert Bog Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:54:26 EST Keith, Hulbert Bog is west of Hulbert lake. M28 actually goes right through the bog just past the road that you would turn on to go to Hulbert. The road you turn south on to go through the bog actually hits M28 in the middle of the bog. It is just easier to bird the bog from the gravel back road than from M28. Kevin brambling@juno.com Haslett MI 48840 517-339-1248 -------------------------------- Northern Michigan Birding Email List nmbemail@northbirding.com Keith Saylor www.Northbirding.com ------------------------------------------ NMB registered members may use this email address to post sightings if they do not wish to post on the message board. I will post all messages sent through this email address to the message board. nmbemail@northbirding.com